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Friday, November 7, 2025

Possible Reasons Why The Details Regarding Heaven Are Vague In Scripture

 

Here's a conversation I had with ChatGPT on the topic. Many of the answers I could have given, but I chose to ask pointed questions so as to lead ChatGPT to write the answers for me to save me time.:

explore reasons why God might have inspired scripture to be vague on the details of the blessed afterlife of the redeemed
ChatGPT said:

That’s a deep and thoughtful theological question — and one that theologians across traditions have wrestled with for centuries.
Why does Scripture speak so richly yet so sparingly about the specifics of the blessed afterlife — the life of the redeemed in glory?

Below is a synthesis of classical Christian reasoning on that mystery, with both biblical and theological reflections.


🕊️ 1. To Awaken Faith, Not Satisfy Curiosity

God may have intentionally left heaven’s details veiled because His purpose is to train faith, not gratify imagination.
Scripture calls believers to trust God’s goodness rather than to map out the architecture of eternity.

“For we walk by faith, not by sight.” — 2 Cor 5:7

If the afterlife were described in exhaustive, sensory detail, it might:

  • Encourage spectator curiosity instead of spiritual trust.

  • Shift our focus from the Giver to the gifts.

  • Tempt us to love heaven for its comforts rather than for God Himself.

Augustine put it beautifully:

“He who loves God for His own sake has all he desires; for what can be above God?” (Confessions, X.29)


🌤️ 2. The Reality Exceeds Human Comprehension

Another classic reason is cognitive limitation.
Finite creatures simply cannot grasp infinite joy in creaturely terms.

“No eye has seen, nor ear heard, nor the heart of man imagined,
what God has prepared for those who love him.” — 1 Cor 2:9

Even metaphorical language — streets of gold, rivers of life, crowns, feasts — is accommodated speech, pointing beyond itself.
Just as the Old Testament used the Promised Land as a symbol for rest, so the New Testament uses imagery to hint at an inexpressible reality.

To give more detail might be to distort the truth by forcing it into earthly categories.


🧭 3. To Preserve Moral and Spiritual Focus in the Present

God’s revelation is redemptive and practical, not speculative.
Scripture is designed to sanctify, not to satisfy metaphysical curiosity.

“The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things that are revealed belong to us and to our children forever.” — Deut 29:29

Knowing too much detail about the world to come might distract us from our vocation in this world — to love, serve, and bear witness.
The vagueness keeps us oriented toward faithful obedience now, not escapism.

C. S. Lewis echoed this idea:

“Heaven will not be a compensation for life on earth but the consummation of it.”
And we cannot live well toward that consummation without being tested by partial knowledge.


💞 4. To Emphasize Relationship, Not Environment

Biblical descriptions of eternal life focus not on what heaven is like, but on who is there.

“This is eternal life, that they know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.” — John 17:3

The redeemed state is about union and communion with God — not scenery or activity.
Hence, Scripture’s reserve keeps us centered on personal fellowship rather than on speculative cosmology.

The vagueness is theological pedagogy — training us to desire God, not merely “paradise.”


🔥 5. To Guard Against Idolatry and Misrepresentation

Every attempt to concretize heaven runs the risk of:

  • Projecting earthly desires (luxury, leisure, reward) onto a spiritual state.

  • Turning eschatology into mythology — creating images that substitute for glory.

By speaking through symbols — a city, a feast, a wedding, a temple — God conveys truth analogically, not literally.
The restraint of revelation protects us from fashioning an idol of heaven.


🌺 6. To Sustain Hope Through Mystery

Mystery can sharpen hope.
When knowledge is partial, longing grows.
The redeemed are described as those who “desire a better country, that is, a heavenly one” (Heb 11:16).
Our hearts are drawn forward by holy anticipation, not full comprehension.

As Aquinas said, “The desire for the vision of God is itself the seed of beatitude.”
The vagueness preserves that desire — we are pilgrims who yearn toward something glimpsed but not yet grasped.


🌅 7. To Reflect the Already–Not Yet Tension

The biblical story ends not in an escape from the world but in a new creation — heaven and earth renewed.
Because that reality has not yet been revealed, it remains eschatologically open.
The vagueness mirrors the present condition of the church: redeemed, yet awaiting full revelation.

“When Christ who is your life appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.” — Col 3:4


🧩 In Summary

Reason Core Idea
1. Faith over curiosity Revelation is relational, not exhaustive.
2. Finite minds Glory surpasses creaturely comprehension.
3. Ethical focus Keeps believers engaged in the mission now.
4. God-centeredness The focus is communion with God, not surroundings.
5. Idolatry guardrail Prevents crude, worldly imaginings of heaven.
6. Hope and desire Mystery stirs longing for union with God.
7. Eschatological tension Reflects our partial vision until full revelation.

If you’d like, I can trace how specific theologians — for example, Aquinas, Calvin, and C. S. Lewis — each explain this divine reserve in revelation about heaven. Would you like a comparison like that next?

You said:
yes
ChatGPT said:

Excellent — here’s a comparative look at how Aquinas, Calvin, and C. S. Lewis each account for why God reveals so little about the blessed afterlife.

Though they differ in tone and method, you’ll see a deep unity in their answers: the reserve of revelation is pedagogical — it teaches us how to long rightly, hope rightly, and love rightly.


🕊️ 1. Thomas Aquinas (1225–1274) — The Inexpressibility of the Beatific Vision

Key texts: Summa Theologiae I.12; I–II.3; Supplement 92

Core idea:

Heaven is veiled because the Beatific Vision—the direct sight of God’s essence—is beyond human language and imagination.

Details:

  • The object of heavenly joy is God Himself, seen “face to face.”

  • Finite minds can’t conceptually grasp infinite being without being transformed by grace.

  • Therefore, God reveals heaven by analogy: light, glory, rest, feasting. These images are true but symbolic accommodations to our mode of knowing.

  • The lack of detail protects the transcendence of the divine reality.

“The glory of the saints will exceed whatever the human mind can conceive… because it will consist in the vision of God Himself.” (ST Suppl. 92.1 ad 3)

Theological purpose:

To stir the soul toward intellectual and moral purification so that it may become capable of seeing God.
The vagueness fosters contemplative desire rather than idle curiosity.


📖 2. John Calvin (1509–1564) — Faith’s Restraint and the Discipline of Hope

Key texts: Institutes of the Christian Religion III.25; Commentary on 1 Corinthians 13:12

Core idea:

God’s restraint in describing the afterlife is an act of mercy — He gives us only what is profitable for faith and obedience, not what would inflame speculation.

Details:

  • Calvin warns against “fruitless curiosity” about heaven’s nature.

  • The biblical images (crowns, mansions, etc.) are figures to help our weakness, not literal topography.

  • The believer’s task is to rest in God’s promises, not to pry into unrevealed mysteries.

  • The clarity of Scripture’s moral teaching contrasts deliberately with its reserve on heavenly details: what we need to know is how to live by faith now.

“We must be content with the measure of revelation which God, in His wisdom, has seen fit to bestow.” (Institutes III.25.10)

Theological purpose:

To cultivate humble expectancy — a faith that clings to God’s goodness without demanding sensory proof.
The veil preserves spiritual sobriety and eschatological patience.


🌌 3. C. S. Lewis (1898–1963) — The Discipline of Desire and the Language of Longing

Key texts: The Weight of Glory, The Great Divorce, Letters to Malcolm, Mere Christianity

Core idea:

Heaven is only hinted at because earthly language can express it only through metaphor and yearning.
God wants us to cultivate longing, not certainty.

Details:

  • Lewis calls our present glimpses of joy “signposts,” not the destination.

  • The vagueness of heaven keeps our longing undefiled by fantasy.

  • He warns that trying to picture heaven concretely tends to produce idolatry or sentimentality.

  • The partial knowledge trains us to desire the source of all beauty rather than to fixate on imagined pleasures.

“The faint, far-off results of those energies which God’s creative rapture implanted in matter when He made the worlds, are what we now call beauty. But they are only the beginnings of His love.” (The Weight of Glory)

Theological purpose:

To sanctify imagination — letting mystery awaken a holy homesickness for God Himself.
Heaven’s vagueness keeps desire pure and directed upward.


🧩 Comparative Summary

Theologian Emphasis Why God is Vague Spiritual Effect
Aquinas Metaphysical transcendence Human language and intellect can’t grasp the infinite; analogical speech is necessary Deepens contemplative longing for the Beatific Vision
Calvin Scriptural sufficiency & humility God reveals only what’s profitable for faith and obedience Cultivates humility, hope, and moral focus
C. S. Lewis Imaginative desire & symbolism Heaven transcends expression; images awaken desire without distortion Purifies longing; redirects imagination toward God

🕯️ The Common Thread

All three converge on this conviction:

The vagueness of heaven in Scripture is not neglect but design — a divine pedagogy that teaches faith, humility, and desire for God Himself rather than for His gifts.


Would you like me to add how this theme appears in Scripture itself—for example, how the Book of Revelation, 1 Cor 13, and John 14 deliberately use symbolic reserve to veil the glory of the redeemed state?

You said:
yes
ChatGPT said:

Perfect — let’s look at specific Scripture passages that illustrate why the Bible is deliberately vague about the afterlife of the redeemed, and how this aligns with the theological points we just explored.


1. 1 Corinthians 13:12 — Partial Knowledge and Seeing “Face to Face”

“For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now I know in part, then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known.”

Key points:

  • Paul explicitly acknowledges that current knowledge is partial.

  • Heaven is not fully revealed because our finite understanding cannot grasp full reality.

  • The “face to face” vision points to direct communion with God, not descriptive details of the environment.

Spiritual lesson: God’s reserve cultivates faith, longing, and moral transformation, preparing us for the Beatific Vision (Aquinas) or full communion with God (Calvin & Lewis).


2. Revelation 21–22 — Symbolic Imagery of the New Creation

Streets of gold, gates of pearl, river of life, tree of life…

Key points:

  • John uses symbolic and analogical language; it’s not meant as literal architecture.

  • The imagery communicates abundance, purity, and access to God, not a literal blueprint of heaven.

  • Even the angels acknowledge the limits of human comprehension: symbolic language conveys truth indirectly.

Spiritual lesson: Vivid images stimulate hope and desire without reducing the infinite reality of God to human concepts (Lewis’s “signposts”).


3. John 14:1–3 — Jesus Promises a Place Prepared

“In my Father’s house are many rooms… I go to prepare a place for you.”

Key points:

  • Jesus intentionally keeps the description minimal.

  • Focus is on assurance of presence with God, not on material details of the dwelling.

  • The vagueness reinforces trust in God’s care rather than curiosity about specifics.

Spiritual lesson: Obedience and faith are nourished by relational promises rather than literal schematics (Calvin).


4. 1 Thessalonians 4:16–17 — Emphasis on Relationship and Resurrection

“…we will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air…”

Key points:

  • Scripture highlights union with Christ and other believers, not the landscape or amenities of heaven.

  • Details of what heaven looks like are omitted; the focus is on experiential communion.

  • Resurrection is the central promise — the “how” is left largely implicit.

Spiritual lesson: Eternal life is relational first, environmental second — the vagueness preserves focus on God rather than created things (Calvin and Lewis).


5. 2 Corinthians 5:1–10 — Tent vs. Building Imagery

“For we know that if the earthly tent we live in is destroyed, we have a building from God… eternal in the heavens.”

Key points:

  • Paul uses analogical, earthly imagery to describe a spiritual reality.

  • Vagueness prevents misinterpretation and idolization of heaven’s “materials” or “architecture.”

  • The emphasis is on continuity of identity and glorification, not on speculative detail.

Spiritual lesson: The partially revealed nature of the afterlife strengthens hope and ethical living in the present.


✅ Summary of Scriptural Strategy

Passage Vague Detail Emphasis / Purpose
1 Cor 13:12 “Mirror dimly… face to face” God’s glory is incomprehensible; cultivates faith and longing
Rev 21–22 Streets of gold, gates of pearl Symbolic imagery points to abundance and purity
John 14:1–3 “Many rooms… I go to prepare a place” Relational promise over literal detail; fosters trust
1 Thess 4:16–17 Clouds, meeting Christ Union with God and saints, not spatial description
2 Cor 5:1–10 Tent vs. building Spiritual transformation; hope through analogy

Common thread: Scripture deliberately balances enough revelation to inspire hope with enough mystery to cultivate faith, desire, and humility — exactly what theologians like Aquinas, Calvin, and Lewis emphasized.


If you want, I can make a visual diagram connecting theologians, Scripture passages, and the spiritual purposes of vagueness — basically a one-page “map” of why heaven is intentionally mysterious. It can make all this easier to see at a glance.

Do you want me to do that?

You said:
yes
ChatGPT said:

Perfect! Here’s a visual “map” connecting Scripture, theologians, and the purpose of vagueness about the afterlife. I’ll describe it in a way that could be drawn as a diagram or table.


🌟 Why Scripture is Vague About the Blessed Afterlife

Central Idea:

God intentionally reveals enough to inspire hope but not enough to satisfy curiosity, focusing on relationship with Him over sensory details.


1️⃣ Theologians & Their Insights

Theologian Key Insight Why Vagueness? Spiritual Effect
Aquinas Beatific Vision Human minds cannot fully comprehend infinite glory; symbols only Cultivates contemplation & desire for God Himself
Calvin Faithful obedience God reveals only what is profitable for faith Encourages humility, hope, moral focus
C. S. Lewis Symbolic imagery Earthly language can’t capture heaven Awakens holy longing; purifies imagination

2️⃣ Scriptural Examples

Passage How Details Are Vague Emphasis / Purpose
1 Cor 13:12 “Mirror dimly… face to face” God’s glory incomprehensible; fosters faith & longing
Rev 21–22 Streets of gold, gates of pearl Symbolic; points to abundance & purity, not literal city
John 14:1–3 “Many rooms… I go to prepare a place” Relational promise over spatial description; fosters trust
1 Thess 4:16–17 Clouds, meeting Christ Union with God & saints; emphasis on relationship
2 Cor 5:1–10 Tent vs. building Spiritual analogy; hope & continuity of identity

3️⃣ Spiritual Purposes of Vagueness

  • Faith over curiosity: Trust God rather than know all details (Calvin).

  • Desire & hope: Mystery awakens holy longing (Lewis).

  • Transcendence & comprehension: Infinite glory exceeds human understanding (Aquinas).

  • Relational focus: Heaven is about union with God, not scenery.

  • Moral orientation: Keeps believers focused on present obedience.

  • Guard against idolatry: Prevents confusing imagery with reality.


🧩 Diagram Idea

[God’s Purpose for Revelation] | ----------------------------- | | [Theologians] [Scripture] | | Aquinas Calvin Lewis 1 Cor 13 Rev 21-22 | | | | | Symbolic Faith Imagery Mirror dimly Streets of gold vision & Obedience & Desire | | | | | Fosters longing Points to purity & abundance ... ... | [Spiritual Effects] Faith, Hope, Desire, Humility, Relational Focus, Moral Living

This diagram visually links theologians to Scriptural examples and then to spiritual purposes, showing a coherent pattern: the vagueness is intentional, pedagogical, and relational.

If you like, I can also turn this into a polished, colorful chart you could print or use digitally, with arrows, icons, and color-coding for “theologians → scripture → purposes.” It would make the map instantly clear at a glance.

Do you want me to create that visual version?

 

Friday, July 30, 2021

Why Isn't the Bible Clearer?

 

In a facebook group I belong to, an atheist asked this of Christians:


For all the literalist Christians- why do you think god took so many words to tell you some simple truths? If your god is so evident and real, why not just put out a useful pamphlet telling us the basics, rather than have to do it via a long winded, easily misinterpreted, morally ambiguous, repetitive and confusing text that hardly anyone can tolerate reading in its entirety? For useful and concise yet spiritually wise story-telling, it's difficult to find a better book than The Prophet by Kahlil Gibran. It seems a shame to me that the bible isn't more like that book. Thoughts?

I gave the following brief reply with minor editing. I've also added material that wasn't in the original response in purple:

There are many non-ultimate reasons, and other ultimate reasons.

- Our efforts, diligence and industry in trying to understand the Bible reveals our sincerity and seriousness in knowing about God and His ways. It weeds out those who aren't serious and sincere. Our response to the Bible exposes our character. It also affords room and possibility for rewards for diligence. Raking is easy, but you only get leaves. Digging is hard, but by doing so you can find diamonds and gold. Most people are only willing to rake the Bible. Because of our sinful nature, we are naturally intellectually lazy and immoral and biased in our reading/studying of the Bible. Yet, we are that way willingly, and therefore culpably so.

Prov. 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal things, but the glory of kings is to search things out.

-A critic might ask, "Why couldn't Jesus and/or the Bible refrain from using idioms and only use pure universal unambiguous propositional prose so that every generation of Bible readers could understand plainly?" It's not clear that human language can be completely free of the use of idioms, emblematic language and other non-propositional like language. See the first section [pages 2-5] of Steve Hays' article here to get my meaning and point:

Why I Believe by Steve Hays

-Often, it's not just/merely the clear propositional aspects of the Bible that inspire faith [which is more than mere belief BTW], but it's often the narrative thrust of the Bible that often does so even more. Non-Christians understand how powerful narrative is in forming/developing morals. That's why Hollywood has been taken over by the most radical non-Christians. Why the woke want to impose their values on both theists and non-theists.

- A completely understandable Revelation this side of death [and of the eschaton, the final Day of Judgment and Final Manifestation of God] wouldn't capture & sustain the continual intrigue and fascination of humans for very long. Even regarding wonderful earthly things, we often take them for granted because they are so common and easily understood. This is why even ordinary human poetry and Shakespeare's works fascinate people who don't fully understand them. The mystery adds to and is part of the enjoyment. The more you dig into the Bible the more gold is found. Many Christians know by experience how studying a Biblical subject can be very enjoyable and awe inspiring.

Take for example the subject of the Messiahship of Jesus. Here's a link to Messianic Jew Arnold Fruchtenbaum's 21 lectures on the Jewish Life of Christ:

More could be said and enumerated regarding non-ultimate reasons. But I'll leave it at that.

The ultimate reason is that in God's sovereignty, He has inspired Scripture to say what it does in order to save the guilty elect and judicially condemn the guilty non-elect.

I'm a Calvinist Protestant, but even high predestinarian Catholic Blaise Pascal wrote in his famous Pensées:

//Willing to appear openly to those who seek him with all their heart, and to be hidden from those who flee from him with all their heart, God so regulates the knowledge of himself that he has given indications of himself which are visible to those who seek him and not to those who do not seek him. There is enough light for those to see who only desire to see, and enough obscurity for those who have a contrary disposition.//

//563 The prophecies, the very miracles and proofs of our religion, are not of such a nature that they can be said to be absolutely convincing. But they are also of such a kind that it cannot be said that it is unreasonable to believe them. Thus there is both evidence and obscurity to enlighten some and confuse others. But the evidence is such that it surpasses, or at least equals, the evidence to the contrary; so that it is not reason which can determine men not to follow it, and thus it can only be lust or malice of heart. And by this means there is sufficient evidence to condemn, and insufficient to convince; so that it appears in those who follow it, that it is grace, and not reason, which makes them follow it; and in those who shun it, that it is lust, not reason, which makes them shun it. //

//577 There is sufficient clearness to enlighten the elect, and sufficient obscurity to humble them. There is sufficient obscurity to blind the reprobate, and sufficient clearness to condemn them, and make them inexcusable.—Saint Augustine, Montaigne, Sébond.//

//574 All things work together for good to the elect, even the obscurities of Scripture; for they honour them because of what is divinely clear. And all things work together for evil to the rest of the world, even what is clear; for they revile such, because of the obscurities which they do not understand.//

//562 It will be one of the confusions of the damned to see that they are condemned by their own reason, by which they claimed to condemn the Christian religion.//

//576 God has made the blindness of this people subservient to the good of the elect.//

My point being that if the Bible were any more clearer OR any more ambiguous in either direction, not all and only all of God's elect might be saved. Though, the doctrine of predestination and the various options available to Christians is an in-house debate in Christianity and shouldn't take a center stage or usurp attention from the main issues. Christians are free to disagree on this topic. Whether one is a Calvinist like myself, or an Arminian, or middle knowledge Molinist, or middle knowledge Congruist, or Augustinian et cetera.

Also, if the Bible were too clear, then God's providential plan for history [or literally HIS-story] would not come to pass. The progress of Redemptive History and of civilization, with all it's ups and downs, are part of God's plan to glorify Himself and prove man's need for God. There are three main views on the Millennium among Christians. All three are within the pale of Christian orthodoxy. Amillennialism, Premillennialism and Postmillennialism. If postmillennialism is true [as I suspect], then one day the world of humanity will eventually be fully evangelized and Christianized such that the majority of humanity will be saved on earth and all aspects of society will be sanctified. That's a process that will take time. A process that will bring greatest glory to God. Just like in superhero movies the origins story with all its struggles and ups and downs to develop character in the protagonist makes the journey all the more glorious. God is like the Mickey to the Rocky of human history. Or the Mr. Miagi to the Karate Kid of human history. Or the Obi Wan Kenobi to the Luke. You also need a Vader to fight the Luke. The wheat must struggle with the tares/weeds [cf. the Parable of the Wheat and Tares in the Bible].

Even if I'm wrong about Postmillennialism and Premillennialism or Amillennialism were true, a Bible that were much clearer wouldn't result in fulfilling either the Premil or Amil position.

Also, God's ways are deeper and higher than our ways. Moreover, God's nature, while truly apprehensible, is nevertheless incomprehensible. We can apprehend God to some degree, but we cannot fully comprehend God exhaustively. The finite cannot contain the infinite.

Rom. 11:33 Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are his judgments and how inscrutable his ways!
34 "For who has known the mind of the Lord, or who has been his counselor?"
35 "Or who has given a gift to him that he might be repaid?"
36 For from him and through him and to him are all things. To him be glory forever. Amen.

Isa. 55:6 "Seek the LORD while he may be found; call upon him while he is near;
7 let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts; let him return to the LORD, that he may have compassion on him, and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the LORD.
9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.
10 "For as the rain and the snow come down from heaven and do not return there but water the earth, making it bring forth and sprout, giving seed to the sower and bread to the eater,
11 so shall my word be that goes out from my mouth; it shall not return to me empty, but it shall accomplish that which I purpose, and shall succeed in the thing for which I sent it.

I then recommended reading The Weight of Glory by C.S. Lewis

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Monday, May 22, 2017

A Case for Revelation's Canonicity


In a Christian Facebook group a Christian said he was starting to doubt the book of Revelation's canonicity. I responded off the top of my head with these 7 reasons to be hesitant to reject Revelation. I could have added more, but I thought 7 was a good number (especially in light of Revelation's own fixation on sevens). I might eventually add to this list based on other people's comments.

1. There's no good ***positive*** case against its canonicity.

2. While its canonicity was in question for a time in the early church, by God's providence it was included and recognized by most Christian denominations as belonging in the canon. Therefore, we should be hesitant to reject its canonicity.

3. Rejecting it would eliminate many arguments that can be made from it for important doctrines like the Trinity, the full deity of Christ and the personality and full deity of the Holy Spirit, hell as eternal conscious torment, aspects of angelogy et cetera.

4. Its Jewish character and reliance on the OT, along with its similarities with the Gospel of John suggests it really is from the Apostle John. Among the many similarities, here are just some. Both gJohn and Revelation refer to Jesus as the "Word of God", liken Him to a "lamb", as the light and glory of God, strongly affirm and emphasize Christ's full deity, both alone specifically identify Zech. 12:10 as fulfilled at the cross, refer to Christ as the Shepherd et cetera.

4. Among all NT books, Revelation quotes or alludes to the OT the most. See my blogpost where I quote E.W. Bullinger:
http://trinitynotes.blogspot.com/2013/12/the-hebrew-character-of-book-of.html

This suggests it's from a Christian community that respects the Jewish origins of Christianity, and therefore further suggesting its historical connection with the original followers of Christ. For example, "maranatha" (1 Cor. 16:22) is considered to be a very early Christian phrase because it's Aramaic. Revelation's "Come, Lord Jesus" (Rev. 22:20) seems to allude to that.

5. Revelation has MANY, MANY connections with the book of Genesis. It alludes to themes and concepts in Genesis in a way that demonstrates their fulfillment in Redemptive history in the person and work of Christ. It does so in a way that, to me and many others, strongly suggests its inspiration. Genesis as the first book and Revelation as the last book makes a beautiful inclusio that smacks of inspiration and providential design.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclusio

6. The OT does have clearly prophetic, apocalyptic and echatological literature (e.g. Daniel). It would make sense that God would inspire at least one book in the NT to be in that genre. Revelation seems to be that book. No other NT book really fulfills that. It tells us about the ultimate and final victory of Christ and the Kingdom of God against all other kingdoms and kings.

7. For nearly 2 millennia it has provided all Christians (especially, those persecuted) great comfort, assurance of future rewards, future rest from labors (cf. Rev. 14:13) and ultimate vindication in the face of inevitable death and sorrow (Rev. 7:17; 21:4). It's power to do so and to encourage perseverance in faith suggests its genuine inspiration.

These are just 7 reasons off the top of my head why we should seriously hesitate rejecting the canonicity of Revelation.




Below are some Comments by others in the Facebook thread. My further comments are in blue:

-And somehow you become the litmus test to determine this... Remember the warning at the end of the book. If you add to or take away... pretty dangerous stuff.
Great point. IF Revelation really is from God, then we might face harsh judgment for rejecting it. Though, it's warning, if genuinely from God, applies to us secondarily. It's primarily for those in the 1st century who were in a greater position to know its source as being that of a true Apostle. Our uncertainty slightly mitigates our responsibility. But only slightly. Since, if it's truly inspired and belongs in the canon, then by God's design it has the secondary application to itself in relation to the rest of Scripture, along with the tertiary sense in which the warnings of Revelation applies to ANY part of the canon (i.e. including passages outside of the book itself).


-Have you examined and compared the Greek vocabulary with the books of John, 1st 2nd and 3rd John? How does the Bible look without the end story?

-Since we acknowledge that we believe in an absolutely sovereign God who rules by decree, and that the Canon of Scripture has been widely accepted by Christians for many centuries to include the Revelation of John, it is unreasonable to conclude that God would permit it to be included as part of divine, God breathed inspiration.
It would be negligent or even deceptive for God to allow a counterfeit book of this importance to be included in what we widely accept as the Conon.
While the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of professing Christian communities accept Revelation, apparently not all do. The Wikipedia article on Revelation claims (rightly or wrongly) "Revelation was the last book accepted into the Christian biblical canon, and to the present day some "Nestorian" churches[citation needed] such as the Church of the East reject it.[23][24] It was considered[by whom?] tainted because the heretical sect of the Montanists relied on it[25] and doubts were raised over its Jewishness and authorship."


- Plus, I may add; this is not John's revelation-it's the revelation of Jesus Christ...tread lightly