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Monday, January 1, 2024

Omnibenevolence and Calvinism

 (posted 2026/01/23)

I believe a Calvinist can simply "bite the bullet" and say that the Calvinistic God is not omnibenevolent. However, I don't think a Calvinist needs to do so. The modern conception of omnibenevolence seems to be a recent philosophical construct based on perfect being theology, rather than being attenuated by Biblical teaching. The project of perfect being theology is often infected by finite human reasoning rather than being informed by Biblical revelation.There's this claim by some:

QUOTE //As I've mentioned before the 'omnibenevolence' leg of the stool has no real existence prior to the nineteenth century; nobody attributes the term "omnibenevolence" to God prior to that. Indeed, even in the nineteenth century, the term 'omnibenevolence' is usually used in ways that are too weak to formulate any sort of problem of evil, since the term originally seems to have meant merely, 'wishing everyone well' with all the vagueness and flexibility that can have, and which is, in any case, hardly a distinctively divine attribute.//END QUOTE

 https://branemrys.blogspot.com/2011/07/omnibenevolence.html


I don't know if the claim is true or not. But I don't think omnibenevolence should be understood in the way it's often nowadays interpreted and used. Namely, to mean omnibeneficient. The Latin roots being "omnis" (all, every); "bene" (well, good); "volens" (willing, wishing); "facere" (to do, to make). Having a good will toward someone doesn't necessitate that you will make it the case, or give or do for them 1. the highest degree in quality and quantity of, and 2. every kind of good thing. How could God do that logically and still create kinds/types/species/genera? It's logically impossible. Even omnipotence cannot instantiate or actualize contradictions. If we took omnibenevolence to mean omnibeneficent, and actually took that literally, then every individual creature would have to have all benefits, blessings and abilities. Every creature would have to be able to breath underwater like a fish, fly like a bird, be as fast as a cheetah, be as soft as a kitten, armored hard like a crocodile, as small as a bacteria, as large as a whale, be physical like animals, be immaterial like angels, and have angelic intelligence. They would need to be as beautiful and handsome as all men and women. There wouldn't even be distinct sexes. No males or females. But then that would take away from God's creativity and would violate the "principle of plenitude." Meaning the idea that God likes to express His infinite creativity with as much [or at least very much] variety in the world or worlds which He creates or instantiates.


My proposed definition of divine omnibenevolence merely requires: 1. God only does good things, and never does any bad things. That whatever God does is always and only good. 2. This would also makes sense if there's some truth to the concept of evil as being (among other things) privatio boni [a neo-platonic insight co-opted by some early Christians]. Whereby goodness is associated with being, and that one way evil can be defined is by conceiving it as the privation of, or negation of, or twisting of, or perversion of the good. The traditional analogy would be that goodness is like a dress, and evil would be the moth eaten holes in the dress that are contrary to the intended original design. Such that evil has no positive ontological existence. Like how shadows are real in some sense, but don't truly exist. Same thing with the cold. You can feel the cold during winter, but technically, coldness is the absence of heat. As shadows are the absence or diminution of light resulting from the blocking of direct light. 3. Finally, divine omnibenevolence would mean that all goodness and good things find their source in God. As the hymns say, God is the "fount of every blessing" and God is "ever blessing, ever blessed."


My conception of omnibenevolence rejects the idea that God must be supremely and equally loving and gracious to all creatures in the exact same ways, degrees and kinds. As a Calvinist, I emphatically deny that God's "only" or even primary end is the pleasure/benefit of His sentient creatures. It is one of God's goals after God's greatest goal of seeking His own glory. Something which would be sinful for creatures, but proper, righteous and appropriate for God to do. Were God to have a different goal other than seeking the glory the the supremely perfect Being [namely God], God would then be committing idolatry. 

Christianity is more central to my web of beliefs in my worldview than the specific brand of Christianity I hold to [which includes a Calvinistic soteriology]. Calvinism is slightly less central. It's a second tier, and not a first tier issue. So I'm more willing to give up my Calvinism than my Christianity. But on the assumption of the truth of Calvinism (or something very much like it), rather than loving all entities equally and being beneFICENT to all entities equally, my proposed definition of omnibenevolence is that God has a beneVOLENT attitude toward all entities. The latter seems to be perfectly consistent with God loving some things more or less than other things. Which makes room for Calvinism's doctrine of predestination. At least versions of Calvinism that affirm Common Grace, and a univeral good will toward all creatures to some degree or another.





Tuesday, May 30, 2023

One of Many Possible Calvinistic Approaches To the Problem of Evil

 

I recommend Vincent Cheung's materials with various qualification and caveats. I've expressed and listed some of my disagreements and agreements with Vincent Cheung in one of my blogs HERE. For example, I disagree with Cheung's tendency toward Hyper-Calvinism. Due to his Hyper-Calvinistic tendencies some of his solutions to the Problem of Evil will be difficult for many people to accept, including Calvinists. Nevertheless, he makes some great points in the following article. Some of his points I'm open to but don't dogmatically hold. They can be possible options as last ditch responses to the problem of evil. The more options Christians have in responding to the problem of evil from a Christian point of view, the more it demonstrates that the problem is not so problematic for Christianity.

So, I encourage people (especially my fellow Calvinists) to read his materials and add more tools into their apologetical tool box. Tools that won't be one's "go to" answers, but can function as alternative back-up and reserved answers. For example, most Calvinists appeal to compatibilism and deny occasionalism. Whereas Cheung thinks that's a mistake because the real question is whether humans have freedom relative to God. Given his understanding of occasionalism, no one has freedom relative to God, because God directly controls all things.

 

The Problem of Evil by Vincent Cheung
https://www.vincentcheung.com/2005/03/15/the-problem-of-evil/

 

 See Also his related book The Author of Sin which is also freely online.

Here's a quote from pages 20-21 of The Author of Sin which addresses the problem of evil.

 

The writers exercise remarkable restraint toward compatibilism. They have everything set
up well enough that they could blast it to smithereens, but they want to play nice. So they
settle for saying that Augustine's is a "dubious contribution," and that the deterministic
aspects of his philosophy "cancel out any meaningful application of the concept of free
will."
This means that if a compatibilist truly affirms divine determinism, then what he says about human "freedom" or "free will" is meaningless – it is nonsense. These writers see this – most Calvinists refuse to see it.
Summary
Here is the way to avoid nonsense:
1. Affirm absolute divine determinism.
2. Deny all human freedom.
3. Base moral responsibility on God's sovereign decree to judge mankind.
4. Answer almost all related objections by doing the following:
a. Affirm that God is just and righteous by definition.12
b. Deny the unjustified premise, "responsibility presupposes freedom."13

There is no twisting and turning, no philosophical gymnastics, and no need to redefine this
and qualify that. God is sovereign, man is not free – and there is no problem. This is
biblical, coherent, simple, and defensible.

Footnotes:
12 This renders all "problem of evil" and "author of sin" type of objections inapplicable.
13 This renders human freedom irrelevant to the discussion.










Monday, October 24, 2022

Tim Stratton (Molinist) and Chris Date (Calvinist) Discuss Theological Determinism

 

Tim Stratton (Molinist) and Chris Date (Calvinist) Discuss Theological Determinism
https://youtu.be/8-OAlGL7cVg




Stratton vs Date Discussion Review
With Tyler Vela and Colton Carlson

https://youtu.be/gkcDVa6yEhc




Review of Tim Stratton and Chris Date on Determinism
With Dan Chapa and Turretinfan

https://youtu.be/0pEPP1N5PKs



Tuesday, June 21, 2022

Thinking about Middle Knowledge: An Interview with Dr. Travis Campbell

 

Below are links to Dr. Travis Campbell's interview by Reasons To Believe on the topic of Middle Knowledge. Campbell received his PhD in philosophical theology from Westminster Theological Seminary in Philadelphia in 2004. I was highly impressed by his paper "Middle Knowledge: A Reformed Critique" when I first read it years ago. Today I found out that he was interviewed by RTB.

I've linked to the two part interview and the original paper below:





More Links to Calvinistic Responses to Molinism and Middle Knowledge: HERE 

Monday, May 23, 2022

Talking FREE WILL with Michael Preciado

 
Eli Ayala interviews with Reformed/Calvinist Philosopher and Pastor Michael Preciado, about his book "A Reformed View of Free Will."


Talking FREE WILL with Michael Preciado
https://youtu.be/BVuvX7j5-8s


300 Page Response to MERE MOLINISM with Colton Carlson


Colton Carlson interviewed regarding his 300 page response to and critique of Tim Stratton's book Human Freedom, Divine Knowledge, and Mere Molinism: A Biblical, Historical, Theological, and Philosophical Analysis.


300 Page Response to MERE MOLINISM
https://youtu.be/WAsHqEU82lg


See also the series of videos where Colton Carlson reviews the book Mere Molinism. Here's a link to PART ONE of the video series:    https://youtu.be/yZ_-eJ9EFa0


UPDATE: ALL THREE VOLUMES LINKED BELOW 

 A Brief Philosophical & Dialectical Inquiry on Mere Molinism: A Compatibilist Reply | VOLUME 1 by Colton Carlson
Freely Downloadable HERE or HERE

VOLUME 2 Freely Downloadable HERE or HERE

VOLUME 3 Freely Downloadable HERE

Monday, December 6, 2021

Guillaume Bignon Comments on the Highly Anticipated Dialogue/Debate Between William Lane Craig and James White

 

The following video is (Calvinist) Guillaume Bignon's commentary on the recent dialogue/debate between (Molinist) William Lane Craig and (Calvinist) James White. What I really like about Bignon is that he's not only well versed in the debate between Calvinists and non-Calvinists, but he can express and defend the Calvinistic view very well and articulately. 


William Lane Craig vs. James R. White: Calvinist Philosopher Weighs In
https://youtu.be/EGUi5ZZkAzs


In the video (at 56:45) Guillaume makes reference to his nearly two hour interview on the topic of the Manipulation argument on the Parker's Pensées podcast episode 27 HERE.





Here's the original video Bignon is commenting on.


 William Lane Craig vs James White - Calvinism vs Molinism on the Problem of Evil
https://youtu.be/ECcN-fisQRk







Here's James White's Post-Debate Interview by Eli Ayala


James R. White vs. William Lane Craig (Post-Debate Interview)
https://youtu.be/G74B8vdsgIw







Monday, March 15, 2021

A Calvinist response to "Atheist grills Calvinist on Salvation"

 

Having watched the following video, I decide to blog a response:


Atheist grills Calvinist on Salvation
https://youtu.be/_a3eMTy4mAw


I posted the following in the video comments:

//I'm a Calvinist. There is a sense in which we can "do" something for our salvation. I'll explain that in multiple posts. But some preliminaries. God is within His rights not to save any sinner. If anyone ends up in hell, it's because  they deserve to be there on account of their sins. God doesn't send innocent people to hell. They will be there justly/in justice. That anyone is saved from hell is a matter of mercy and grace. Grace and mercy, by definition, are not obligated. If it were obligated, then it would be justice, not mercy or grace. If a human governor pardoned only 10 out of 1000 prison inmates, he is not doing any injustice toward the rest who weren't pardoned. 

It is true that we could only truly desire to be saved only if the efficacious and irresistible special grace of God works in a sinner. Does that mean we can't do anything to be saved? Yes. Does that mean we have nothing to do? no. We have a duty to believe, and to strive to believe even if we can't. Indirect doxastic voluntarism is true, even though  the grace of God is necessary to bring about genuine faith. Under normal circumstances direct doxastic voluntarism is usually [or always] false. We cannot, by an act of the will, choose to believe something. Say, contrary to the evidence etc. However, INdirect doxastic voluntarism is true. We can exercise our wills so as to incline our minds toward believing X, Y, or Z. For example, we can immerse ourselves in apologetical material that will incline us to be willing to believe in Christianity. Which may eventually lead to our believing [in a non-saving way] the truth of Christianity. Or immerse ourselves in anti-theistic and anti-Christian literature that will incline us toward unbelief or even eventually disbelief in Christianity. Unless one believes in the Sandemanian heresy [which a minority of Calvinists believe [e.g. Clarkians]], then faith is not mere assent to the true propositions of the gospel. Saving Faith involves notitia, assensus and fiducia [knowledge, assent, and Spirit inspired genuine trust and recumbency in the promises of the Gospel] . That's why it's possible to believe in the truth of Christianity without being truly saved and regenerate [cf. the Parable of the Sower]. It's a carnal belief, not a saving and spiritual belief. Given that, see my next post which is taken from one of my blogs.

Here's an excerpt from one of my blogs to finish where I was going above given the necessity of regeneration [I couldn't link to the blog on YouTube, but I can here: https://gospelcrumbs.blogspot.com/2013/07/detecting-and-finding-god.html]:

//Does that mean that humans can't affect their eternal destinies by looking for God and examining the various evidences for God? No, it doesn't. One CANNOT CHANGE their pre-ordained destiny, but ONE CAN AFFECT IT because God ordains both the ends as well as the means; all the while upholding causal relations. In other words, God providentially predestines not only what will happen, but how they will happen.

So, if God ordained that a person will be saved, then God also ordained the means to their salvation. That can include things like their 1. seeking for God, 2. examining the evidences, 3. praying, 4. reading the Bible, 5. studying apologetics et cetera.

It will be argued, "Sure, God may also ordain the means, but people will not actually seek God unless and until God first regenerates them so that they can genuinely and sincerely seek after God." The charges and assumptions being, that it's not possible for people to initiate a search for God. And that therefore there's no point in admonishing people to search for God. Also, unless they first have reason to believe they are regenerated (and/or numbered among the elect), they have no reason to have confidence or expectation that their search will be fruitful and that they will, in the end, actually find God. But those are false inferences. God's promise that those who sincerely seek Him will find Him stand (e.g. James 4:8; John 6:37b; Matt. 11:28-30; Isa. 55:6-7; Jer. 29:13; Ps. 145:18; cf. James 1:8.; Luke 11:9-10; Heb. 11:6). That's true whether one is regenerated or not. Moreover, God doesn't require either the elect or non-elect to know they are regenerated or elect before they can seek after Him. Humans are free moral agents (even if they don't have libertarian free wills as Calvinism implies). Being free moral agents created by God, all humans have the duty to seek after God and believe in Him regardless of the possibility of their success in that search.

Given Calvinism, both the elect and non-elect can "search" for God, but only the elect will sincerely, honestly and persistently search for Him because of regeneration. Since a knowledge of one's regeneration isn't essential to saving faith, everyone can have personal psychological hope that they might find God by searching for Him.

Therefore, regarding those who are currently non-Christians, for all they know, God will use their search for Him (whether it's currently sincere or insincere) to eventually lead to their finding Him. Their search which may have begun insincerely may end up being sincere by the regenerating work of the Holy Spirit. So, we are all without excuse if we fail to search for God.//


Wednesday, May 6, 2020

A Top Calvinist Answers Objections By Top Anti-Calvinists


Calvinist Guillaume Bignon interviewed and responds to the objections given by his anti-Calvinist friends Leighton Flowers, Tim Stratton, & Braxton Hunter.


French Calvinist Philosopher Responds to Critics [3/28/2020]
https://youtu.be/rP2BWwC9M3s

(Part 2): Guillaume Responds to Leighton Flowers, Tim Stratton, & Braxton Hunter. [5/2/2020]
https://youtu.be/mX6IvrmFUos

A critical review and fairly comprehensive refutation of“Human Freedom, Divine Knowledge, and Mere Molinism”by Timothy A. Stratton by Guillaume Bignon [or HERE]





The three critics joined together to respond to the first video on their respective channels. Part 2 of Bignon's interview occurred after the following videos were post. So, if you want to watch the videos chronologically, watch Part 2 after watching the following three videos below.

Determinism refuted Biblically [4/3/2020]
https://youtu.be/oSMJRTghRtM

Determinism Refuted Theologically [4/10/2020]
https://youtu.be/w7qcmZ-cO_M

Determinism Refuted Philosophically [4/17/2020]
https://youtu.be/sjIMbNnaG94













Friday, October 2, 2015

A Response to Jerry Walls on Christian Compatibilism by Steven Cowan and Greg Welty



[UPDATE: ALL the links have been gathered HERE: http://www.gregwelty.com/2016/04/wont-get-foiled-again-a-rejoinder-to-jerry-walls/ ]


  1. Jerry L. Walls, “Why No Classical Theist, Let Alone Orthodox Christian, Should Ever Be a Compatibilist,” Philosophia Christi Vol. 13 No. 1 (Summer 2011): 75-104. [link]
  2.  Steve Cowan and Greg Welty, “Pharaoh’s Magicians Redivivus: A Response to Jerry Walls on Christian Compatibilism,” Philosophia Christi Vol. 17, No. 1 (Summer 2015): 151-173. [link]
  3. Steve Cowan and Greg Welty, “Addendum: More Rebuttals of Walls from Pharaoh’s Magicians’ ‘Bag of Tricks’!” (Evangelical Philosophical Society website, September 16, 2015), 1-12. [link]
  4. Jerry L. Walls, “Pharaoh’s Magicians Foiled Again: Reply to Cowan and Welty,” Philosophia Christi Vol. 17, No. 2 (Winter 2015): 411-426. [link]
  5. Greg Welty and Steven Cowan, “Won’t Get Foiled Again: A Rejoinder to Jerry Walls,” Philosophia Christi Vol. 17, No. 2 (Winter 2015): 427-442. [link]



What’s Wrong With Jerry Walls’ Argument Against Calvinism by Dan Johnson
http://www.proginosko.com/2016/10/whats-wrong-with-jerry-walls-argument-against-calvinism/





Greg Welty describes their response article on his website:

A Response to Jerry Walls on Christian Compatibilism


Link to the actual article by Steven B. Cowan and Greg. A. Welty:

Pharaoh’s Magicians Redivivus: A Response to Jerry Walls on Christian Compatibilism


The addendum to their article:

Addendum: More Rebuttals of Walls from Pharaoh’s Magicians’ "Bag of Tricks"!









See also my other blogposts:

Massive Debate between Calvinism and Arminianism


Free Will, Moral Responsibility, and Reformed Theology by Paul Manata

 

Distinctions in God's Will from a Calvinist Perspective

 

Calvinistic Responses to Molinism

 

The History and Theology of Calvinism" by Dr. Curt Daniel (Downloadable MP3 Messages)

 

Sovereign Ruler of the Skies (poem by John Ryland)

 

Calvin and Servetus










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Thursday, October 1, 2015

Calvinistic Responses to Molinism

(originally posted 11/1/2015)

There are many Calvinistic Responses to Molinism both on the internet and in book form. The following are just a sample.



James Anderson's blogposts dealing with Molinism
(This is a link to Anderson's blogposts with the Tag/Label "Molinism")

How Biblical is Molinism? (Part 1) by James Anderson
How Biblical is Molinism? (Part 2) by James Anderson
How Biblical is Molinism? (Part 3) by James Anderson
How Biblical is Molinism? (Part 4) by James Anderson
How Biblical is Molinism? (Part 5) by James Anderson
How Biblical is Molinism? (Part 6) by James Anderson

Yes, Molina, There Could Have Been a Santa Claus by James Anderson



 A Brief Philosophical & Dialectical Inquiry on Mere Molinism: A Compatibilist Reply | VOLUME 1 by Colton Carlson
Freely Downloadable HERE or HERE

VOLUME 2 Freely Downloadable HERE or HERE

VOLUME 3 Freely Downloadable HERE

Colton Carlson VIDEO where he is interviewed regarding his 300 PAGE response to Stratton's book Mere Molinism: HERE

Colton Carlson VIDEO SERIES where he reviews Stratton's book Mere Molinism. Here's the link to PART ONE of the Series: HERE


Middle Knowledge: A Reformed Critique by Travis James Campbell [or HERE]


Greg Welty's Blogposts dealing with Molinism
(This is a link to Welty's blogposts with the Tag/Label "Molinism")


A critical review and fairly comprehensive refutation of“Human Freedom, Divine Knowledge, and Mere Molinism”by Timothy A. Stratton
by Guillaume Bignon [or HERE]


Does Molinism Avoid Making God the Author of Sin? | Welty on Molinism by James A. Gibson
[archived HERE]

Tyler Vela's Criticisms of Molinism
http://freedthinkerpodcast.blogspot.com/2018/07/molinism-collection.html

Turretin on Molinism by "Turretinfan"
https://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=6033E4C50E7BEDE8



Triablogue blogposts with the Label/Tag of "Molinism"
(There are more Triablogue blogposts which deal with Molinism but unfortunately they don't have the "Molinism" label)


See also my blogpost: Free Will, Moral Responsibility, and Reformed Theology by Paul Manata


Wednesday, January 29, 2014

George Mueller Apparently Was A Calvinist



Mueller stated:

1....I had not before seen from the Scriptures that the Father chose us before the foundation of the world; that in Him that wonderful plan of our redemption originated, and that He also appointed all the means by which it was to be brought about...

2. Before this period I had been much opposed to the doctrines of election, particular redemption, and final persevering grace: so much so that, a few days after my arrival at Teignmouth I called election a devilish doctrine. I did not believe that I had brought myself to the Lord, for that was too manifestly false; but yet I held, that I might have resisted finally. And further, I knew nothing about the choice of God's people, and did not believe that the child of God, when once made so; was safe for ever. In my fleshly mind I had repeatedly said, If once I could prove that I am a child of God for ever, I might go back into the world for a year or two, and then return to the Lord, and at last be saved. But now I was brought to examine these precious truths by the word of God. Being made willing to have no glory of my own in the conversion of sinners, but to consider myself merely as an instrument; and being made willing to receive what the Scriptures said; I went to the Word, reading the New Testament from the beginning, with a particular reference to these truths. To my great astonishment I found that the passages which speak decidedly for election and persevering grace were about four times as many as those which speak apparently against these truths; and even those few, shortly after, when I had examined and understood them, served to confirm me in the above doctrines. As to the effect which my belief in these doctrines had on me, I am constrained to state, for God's glory, that though I am still exceedingly weak, and by no means so dead to the lusts of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, as I might and as I ought to be, yet, by the grace of God, I have walked more closely with Him since that period. My life has not been so variable, and I may say that I have lived much more for God than before. And for this have I been strengthened by the Lord, in a great measure, through the instrumentality of these truths. For in the time of temptation, I have been repeatedly led to say: Should I thus sin? I should only bring misery into my soul for a time, and dishonour God; for, being a son of God for ever, I should have to be brought back again, though it might be in the way of severe chastisement. Thus, I say, the electing love of God in Christ (when I have been able to realize it) has often been, the means of producing holiness, instead of leading me into sin. It is only the notional apprehension of such truths, the want of having them in the heart, whilst they are in the head, which is dangerous.
- George Muller of Bristol: His Witness to a Prayer-Hearing God by Arthur T. Pierson, Appendix B

Unless George Mueller changed his mind between writing the above sentiments and his death, then Mueller was clearly a Calvinist.

More Resources on or by George Mueller HERE.


Wednesday, January 1, 2014

Atheists and Calvinism



Some atheists reject Calvinism because they complain that it's unfair. Or because they might be numbered among the non-elect if Calvinism were true. How can Calvinists respond to that?

Well, let me try to approach it logically. It seems to me that there are several issues involved.

1. The truth or falsity of Calvinism
2. The fairness or justice of Calvinism
3. The reality of one's election or non-election
4. The basis on which one could, would, or should come to believe in (and/or submit to) God.

Before discussing the possible falsity of Calvinism in particular (or theism in general), let's first assume that Calvinism is true.

What if Calvinism were true but unjust? If it were unjust/unfair, one would first have to show the standard and foundation upon which one could evaluate Calvinism and show it is unjust or unfair. But many theists AND atheists have argued that no such standard could exist given the non-existence of God. If that's true, then only some other form of theism (or non-Calvinistic form of Christianity) could possibly provide an ultimate standard to demonstrate that Calvinism is unjust and unfair. But this blog post isn't about comparative religion. Nor is it a post comparing the case for Christianity with the cases for other religions. Other Christian works have dealt with that issue. I'm confining myself in this blog primarily to the issue of how atheists should respond to Calvinism. It should also be noted that justice and fairness need not be equivalent. True justice would have to have some ontological grounding. Whereas in common everyday usage "fairness" is often only a concept that refers to the subjective and emotional consideration people expect from each other irrespective of the philosophical issue of moral grounding.

But despite the difficulty that atheism has in grounding justice and fairness, let's assume for the sake of argument that Calvinism is true AND IT REALLY IS UNJUST AND UNFAIR. With that assumption then, God does exist and WILL inexorably save some and damn others. Atheists may argue that therefore there's no point in trying to believing in God. Either one is elect or one isn't elect. If one is elect, then one will be saved eventually. If one isn't elect, one will never and could never be saved. Since no one can change his elect or non-elect status, there's no point to make any effort to come to God. Besides, who would want to believe in a God who is (per this hypothetical) unjust and unfair?

Well, at the very least one may choose to try to believe in God or look for good reasons to believe in this God (assuming Calvinism is true and unjust per this hypothetical) for PRUDENTIAL reasons. That is, for practical and pragmatic reasons for the sake of his own eternal good; and to prevent an eternal harm (i.e. hell). It's not as if no atheists have ever submitted to the rule of a human tyrants and dictators out of pure self-interest and survival (to increase pleasure and minimize suffering/pain). Of course atheists have. An atheist might argue that for the sake of one's own personal integrity, he would rather choose to go to hell than to believe in such an unfair God. But only if personal integrity were a true and ultimate virtue would such a decision really be rational. As explained above, without God it may not be that there are such ultimate virtues. Another atheist might argue that maybe God wouldn't accept that kind of mercenary and sycophantic belief and submission. Since it's not out of full acceptance. He wouldn't be welcoming and embracing (this unjust Calvinistic conception of) God out of joy. Well, per this hypothesis, this God would be unfair, unjust and unpredictable. Since such a God is unpredictable, it wouldn't hurt to give it a try/shot. Maybe this God doesn't mind that kind of loyalty. Many human tyrants and dictators didn't mind. They would rather be feared than truly loved. Obviously, as a Calvinist myself, I don't believe that God is unjust, tyrannical, arbitrary, or capricious.

Here standard pragmatic arguments for belief in God can be useful. Here's a link to my blog on Pascal's Wager which has links to articles on Pascal's Wager and other pragmatic arguments for belief in God.

Pascal's Wager
http://misclane.blogspot.com/2013/12/pascals-wager.html

While pragmatic arguments AREN'T the best reasons to believe in God, they aren't impermissible reasons to believe in God either. Remember, there's a different between not being sure God exists and willing to believe in hopes that God, if He exists will makes Himself real in one's life, AND in positively believing God does NOT exist and having to overcome that disbelief (rather than mere unbelief). Pragmatic arguments can be useful in the former even if they may not be for the latter.

Next some atheists may admit and then ask, "Sure believing in God (or at least submitting to the rule of God) for mercenary reasons makes some rational sense, but what if I'm non-elect? I can't change my elect or non-elect status." It's true that one can't change his predestined election or non-election. The same answer can be given here as above. If such a God were unjust and unpredictable, he might change his mind. Or he doesn't change his mind, it nevertheless only makes sense to try to get on his good side. It makes sense that one might have a better chance of being saved by trying to please God. Just as it seems that one would have a poorer chance of being saved by not trying to please him.

As a matter of fact Calvinism does teach that God's predestination is not unjust and that God is good, gracious and loving. Assuming that God is just and good, what follows? How can Calvinists answer the atheist question and complaint that he might be non-elect? Well, while one cannot change one's elect or non-elect status, Calvinism teaches that God not only preordains the "ends" (i.e. what will happen), God also preordains the "means" (i.e. how they will happen). Therefore, if God preordained that someone will be saved because he is elect, God has also preordained that he will believe as a result of seeking God. As I've shown HERE, both the elect and the non-elect can search for God in some sense even if only the elect can do so sincerely and profitably. It's true that God has ordained all of our choices, but He has done so (according to Calvinism) in such a way that it can seem (at least at times from our psychological perspective) that we have libertarian free will and the power of contrary choice. That's why Calvinists can affirm free moral agency, the reality of human wills and the genuineness of choices while at the same time denying libertarian free will to humans (as knowledgeable Calvinists generally do). Both elect and non-elect persons can begin a search for God insincerely but for the elect God may use that initial insincere search for Him to eventually find Him. That is, God can change an initially insincere search for Him into a sincere search by His regenerating power. Since no atheist in this world knows (or can know) whether he is elect or not, he isn't rationally barred from initiating a search for God even if he knows it might initially be insincere. Since God may use such a search by the atheist to bring him into a sincere search. This is also one reason why it's foolish for any atheist to ever give up searching for God. Since one can never know if or when he will find and come to experience God.

Also, since God sometimes ordains that the elect or the non-elect fulfill their destinies via their psychological belief that they are or are not numbered among the elect, that's reason not to prematurely judge oneself non-elect. Psychologically speaking, fear of being non-elect (or resenting that possibility) can become a self-fulfilling prophecy. If one is non-elect, there's no point in fearing it since you can't change your destiny. But as pointed out above, God ordains ends and means. Therefore, if one were to assume the truth of predestination (or at least its possibility), it's in one's best interest to focus on living in such a way that meets the distinguishing marks of election. Namely, seeking God. Even if one is currently not a Christian, in hopes of finding God. Or if one is currently a professing Christian, to continue pursuing God and living the Christian life of sanctification. That's what 2 Pet. 1:10 is about. It's not about "securing" one's election as if it hangs in the balance or as if it's not yet determined. That verse (2 Peter 1:10) is about living in such a way that you have personal psychological assurance that one is among the elect because one is living in a way that the elect live. By pursuing holiness and living a life of daily faith and repentance.

"Therefore, brothers, be all the more diligent to make your calling and election sure, for if you practice these qualities you will never fall." - 2 Pet. 1:10

Atheists might say that's fine and dandy if the God of Calvinism is actually just. Maybe he isn't. But it's also a logical possiblity that He is just. For all the atheist knows, Calvinism may not only be true, BUT ALSO BE JUST (i.e. in keeping with justice). Merel because Calvinism may SEEM unjust to him (according to his limited and finite understanding), doesn't necessarily mean it is. If God is as transcendant as Calvinism claims, it only makes sense that some things may at present seem to be unjust and irrational, yet in the end may be revealed and demonstrated to actually be just and rational on the Day of Judgement. Just as there may be morally and rationally sufficient reasons for God allowing (even ordaining) the evil and suffering in this world even though we might at present not be privy to those reasons, so (in like manner) there may be morally and rationally sufficient reasons for God electing some and passing over the non-elect. That's not to say that Calvinists haven't offered some reasons. They have, but they don't claim to exhaust all the possible reasons for why God elects in the way He does.

We started this blog with the assumption that Calvinism true, and God is unjust. Then that Calvinism is true, and God is just. It's now time to explore the possibility that Calvinism false.

Let's make the hypothetical assumption that Calvinism and any other form of theism is false (even non-Calvinistic forms of Christianity). If God doesn't exist then no one is actually elect or non-elect. In which case, there would be no actual problem with predestination. More importantly, if God doesn't exist it's very difficult to argue for the objective reality of justice and/or fairness. If it's true (as many theists AND atheists argue) that apart from God there are no moral absolutes or no objective moral duties that humans are obligated to obey and follow, then there's nothing intrinsically wrong with the concept of election or non-election. Nor with anyone BELIEVING in those concepts. Therefore, there would really be no basis upon which to judge Calvinism's doctrine of predestination as immoral, unjust or unfair. Believing in Calvinism would be morally equivalent to any other choice of a worldview (whether it be atheism, Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism etc.). Therefore, there would be nothing morally wrong in believing in Calvinism or being a Calvinist. Given that assumption, atheists cannot judge or criticize Calvinism (as a system) or Calvinists (themselves as people) for being morally abhorent or beliving what they do, or for being "cold hearted." As if it were "wrong" to be "cold hearted."

The question that's left then is whether Calvinism is actually true and how to determine it.

And so, finally, atheists may respond by saying, "I don't want to believe anything for which 1. I don't have sufficient evidence to believe, or 2. which I find irrational, or 3. which I find immoral and abhorrent."

In answer to that, I recommend atheists read a wide range of Christian apologetical literature. By so doing, one can encounter evidence and arguments that may persuade one of the plausiblity or truth of Christianity. For some, pragmatic arguments may be enough to tip the scales that they are willing to pursue God or believe in Him provisionally. That in itself, while not the best way to approach God, is still nevertheless something God sometimes uses to draw someone to Himself. For those who cannot believe something for which they're convinced is false, I applaud them. From a Christian perspective, it's immoral to try to believe something you really don't believe is true or postively believe is false. That's not to say that Christians don't sometimes doubt the truth of Christianity or that they don't have an obligation to strengthen their faith. Christians, if they truly are Christians, already are born again, have been regenerated and are in relationship with God. They should know better than to persist in doubt. That's what Jesus was referring to when He said that those who are to enter the Kingdom of God must do so with child-like faith. It about trusting one's heavenly Father. That's a different context from an atheist who doesn't believe in God and has no relationship with Him. Choosing to believe something is true by sheer willpower (i.e. doxastic voluntarism) is either nearly impossible or actually impossible. The way to overcome negative doubt or postive disbelief belief is to immerse oneself in the evidences for God's existence. Those evidence may eventually lead one to the conclusion that God really does exist.

J.P. Moreland makes some good points about the psychology of belief in the following lecture which I highly recommend:

 "Love Your God With All Your Mind" by J. P. Moreland 
(there are two versions of the lecture at the below link)

http://winteryknight.wordpress.com/2013/09/12/j-p-moreland-lectures-on-love-your-god-with-all-your-mind/


More of my blogs on J.P. Moreland can be accessed HERE. Which is the same link as the bottom of this blog where J.P. Moreland is one of the labels.


Recommended Books:

A Call to the Unconverted by Richard Baxter (or HERE, HERE, HERE)

Alarm to the Unconverted by Joseph Alleine (or HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE)

Friday, December 27, 2013

Massive Debate between Calvinism and Arminianism



This debate took place between (mainly) Victor Reppert, Steve Hays, Paul Manata, and Dominic Bnonn Tennant. There are many other blogs at Triablogue that persuasively argue for Calvinism which are not included in this debate. But the links included in the following blog link are representative.

http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2008/06/calvinism-vs-arminianism.html



Blueprint predestination by Steve Hays
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2012/10/blueprint-predestination.html

Annotated prooftexts by Steve Hays
http://triablogue.blogspot.co.za/2014/07/annotated-prooftexts.html